The United Nations of Photography

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Author: gscott2012

Losing and Winning. Photography in The Dark Days…

Posted on 02/12/202302/12/2023 by gscott20120

Audio Opinions Podcasts: A Photographic Life

PODCAST: A Photographic Life, Episode 291: Plus Luke Duggleby

Posted on 29/11/202323/11/2023 by gscott20120

AUDIO: RIP Ross McDonnell 1979-2023

Posted on 26/11/202326/11/2023 by gscott20120

The Key Themes of Photography

Posted on 25/11/202327/11/2023 by gscott20121

Audio Opinions Podcasts: A Photographic Life

PODCAST: A Photographic Life, Episode 290: Plus Photographer Roo Lewis

Posted on 22/11/202319/11/2023 by gscott20120

The Shock of The New Is Not New or Improve Your Photography The Old Way!

Posted on 21/11/202322/11/2023 by gscott20120

One Camera and Two Lenses Is All You Need…

Posted on 19/11/202319/11/2023 by gscott20127

NEW BOOK: Inside Vogue House: One building, seven magazines, sixty years of stories.

Posted on 16/11/202316/11/2023 by gscott20120

Audio Opinions Podcasts: A Photographic Life

PODCAST: A Photographic Life, Episode 289: Plus Photographer Robin Weaver

Posted on 15/11/202314/11/2023 by gscott20121

Instagram Is Photography But It Is Not All Photography

Posted on 13/11/202314/11/2023 by gscott20120

Praise Me When I Am Here and When I Am Gone or When Photographers Die…

Posted on 12/11/202313/11/2023 by gscott20123

AUDIO: RIP John Sevigny ‘A Photographer Kidnapped in Mexico’

Posted on 11/11/202311/11/2023 by gscott201216

New Online MA Professional Photography Launched

Posted on 10/11/202310/11/2023 by gscott20120

Do Photographers Need Photographer Friends?

Posted on 09/11/202309/11/2023 by gscott20125

Audio Opinions Podcasts: A Photographic Life

PODCAST: A Photographic Life, Episode 288: Plus Photographer Michael J Brennan

Posted on 08/11/202304/11/2023 by gscott20120

The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, Bob Dylan, Richard Avedon, Irving Penn and William Klein: Social Media and Inspiration…

Posted on 05/11/202305/11/2023 by gscott20124

Audio Opinions Podcasts: A Photographic Life

PODCAST: A Photographic Conversation, Episode 287: With Bill Shapiro ‘Feedback: How to Give and Receive it’

Posted on 01/11/202316/10/2023 by gscott20120

Photography Is No Longer A Technical Medium and That’s A Good Thing!

Posted on 29/10/202329/10/2023 by gscott20123

Photography As Witness, But Should We Look?

Posted on 28/10/202328/10/2023 by gscott20122

Audio Opinions Podcasts: A Photographic Life

PODCAST: A Photographic Life, Episode 286: Plus Photographer Bill Stephenson

Posted on 25/10/202316/10/2023 by gscott20120

Audio Opinions Podcasts: A Photographic Life

PODCAST: A Photographic Life, Episode 285 ‘Kick Starter Special’ with Photographer Marc Wilson

Posted on 18/10/202315/10/2023 by gscott20120

Audio Opinions Podcasts: A Photographic Life

PODCAST: A Photographic Life, Episode 284: Plus Photographer Trish Morrissey

Posted on 11/10/202305/10/2023 by gscott20120

Audio Opinions Podcasts: A Photographic Conversation Podcasts: A Photographic Life

A Photographic Conversation, Episode 283: With Bill Shapiro ‘The Photographic Pivot Part Two’

Posted on 04/10/202328/09/2023 by gscott20120

Audio Opinions Podcasts: A Photographic Life

PODCAST: A Photographic Life, Episode 282: Plus Photographer Dillon Marsh

Posted on 27/09/202324/09/2023 by gscott20120

AUDIO: RIP Erwin Olaf 1959-2023

Posted on 25/09/202325/09/2023 by gscott20122

Audio Podcasts: A Photographic Life

PODCAST: A Photographic Life, Episode 281: Plus Photographer Ian Hill

Posted on 20/09/202314/09/2023 by gscott20120

Audio Opinions Podcasts: A Photographic Life

PODCAST: A Photographic Life, Episode 280: Plus Photographer Ave Pildas

Posted on 13/09/202308/09/2023 by gscott20121

Audio Opinions Podcasts: A Photographic Life

PODCAST: A Photographic Conversation, Episode 279: With Bill Shapiro ‘The Photographic Pivot Part One’

Posted on 06/09/202307/09/2023 by gscott20120

How and Why You Should Buy Secondhand Cameras…

Posted on 03/09/202304/09/2023 by gscott20121

The Rise of The Yellow

Posted on 03/09/202303/09/2023 by gscott20122

New Subjects, New Themes, New Approaches Are Needed in Photography…

Posted on 03/09/202303/09/2023 by gscott20123

Audio Opinions Podcasts: A Photographic Life

PODCAST: A Photographic Life, Episode 278: Plus Photographer Massimo Leardini

Posted on 30/08/202325/08/2023 by gscott20120

Audio Opinions Podcasts: A Photographic Life

PODCAST: A Photographic Life, Episode 277: Plus Photographer Nicholas Sinclair

Posted on 23/08/202316/08/2023 by gscott20120

Audio Opinions Podcasts: A Photographic Life

PODCAST: A Photographic Life, Episode 276: The State of Photography ‘Future’

Posted on 16/08/202309/08/2023 by gscott20120

PODCAST: A Photographic Life, Episode 275: The State of Photography ‘Present’

Posted on 09/08/202307/08/2023 by gscott20120

Who Were We Without a Photograph? Or Captions Are Needed!

Posted on 04/08/202304/08/2023 by gscott20120

Audio Opinions Podcasts: A Photographic Life

PODCAST: A Photographic Life, Episode 274: The State of Photography ‘Past’

Posted on 02/08/202302/08/2023 by gscott20120

Photography is Not the Only Fun in Town, but It Should be Fun!

Posted on 29/07/202331/07/2023 by gscott20120

Photo Guilt. Is It A Thing?

Posted on 27/07/202327/07/2023 by gscott20125

Audio Opinions Podcasts: A Photographic Life

PODCAST: A Photographic Life, Episode 273: Plus Photographer Andrew Macpherson

Posted on 26/07/202326/07/2023 by gscott20120

When Everyone Takes Photographs What Can the Photographer Bring?

Posted on 25/07/202326/07/2023 by gscott20120

Forgotten Photographers Are The Key To Contemporary Success

Posted on 23/07/202324/07/2023 by gscott20120

Audio Opinions Podcasts: A Photographic Life

PODCAST: A Photographic Life, Episode 272: ‘Photo Collecting Special’ with Peter Fetterman

Posted on 19/07/202311/07/2023 by gscott20122

Audio Do Not Bend: The Photographic Life of Bill Jay Podcasts: A Photographic Life

PODCAST: A Photographic Life, Episode 271: ‘Photobook Special’ with Mary V Swanson and Darius Himes

Posted on 12/07/202306/07/2023 by gscott20120

Aim to Make Photographs, Not to Shake the World!

Posted on 09/07/202309/07/2023 by gscott20122

Audio Opinions Podcasts: A Photographic Conversation Podcasts: A Photographic Life

PODCAST: A Photographic Conversation Episode 270: With Bill Shapiro ‘Photography and Artificial Intelligence Part Two’

Posted on 05/07/202323/06/2023 by gscott20121

Audio Opinions Podcasts: A Photographic Life

PODCAST: A Photographic Life, Episode 269: Plus Photographer Julio Mitchel

Posted on 28/06/202323/06/2023 by gscott20120

What is the Difference Between a Photograph and a Successful Photograph?

Posted on 25/06/202325/06/2023 by gscott20120

Audio Opinions Podcasts: A Photographic Life

PODCAST: A Photographic Life, Episode 268: Plus Photographer Edward Thompson

Posted on 21/06/202315/06/2023 by gscott20121

Final Words From Pete Silverton…

Posted on 18/06/202318/06/2023 by gscott20122

Audio Opinions Podcasts: A Photographic Life

PODCAST: A Photographic Life, Episode 267: Plus Photographer David Baker

Posted on 14/06/202312/06/2023 by gscott20120

Audio Podcasts: A Photographic Life

PODCAST: A Photographic Conversation, Episode 266: With Bill Shapiro ‘Photography and Artificial Intelligence Part One’

Posted on 07/06/202302/06/2023 by gscott20120

Is Photography Eating Itself?

Posted on 04/06/202304/06/2023 by gscott20126

Audio Opinions Podcasts: A Photographic Life

PODCAST: A Photographic Life, Episode 265: Plus Photographer Tom Bowden

Posted on 31/05/202325/05/2023 by gscott20120

Audio Opinions Podcasts: A Photographic Life

PODCAST: A Photographic Life, Episode 264: ‘Wellbeing Special’ Plus Photographer Alessia Rollo

Posted on 24/05/202324/05/2023 by gscott20120

Audio Opinions Podcasts: A Photographic Life

PODCAST: A Photographic Life, Episode 263: Plus Photographer Tamara Saade

Posted on 17/05/202311/05/2023 by gscott20120

Is AI the End of Stock Photography?

Posted on 15/05/202316/05/2023 by gscott20123

Pete Has Left The Theatre…

Posted on 15/05/202318/05/2023 by gscott20122

Learning Photography Without a Camera…

Posted on 14/05/202314/05/2023 by gscott20122

PODCAST: A Photographic Life, Episode 262: Plus Photographer Pippa Healy

Posted on 10/05/202304/05/2023 by gscott20120

Audio Opinions Podcasts: A Photographic Life

PODCAST: A Photographic Conversation, Episode 261: With Bill Shapiro ‘The Personal Project Part 2’

Posted on 03/05/202328/04/2023 by gscott20121

Audio Opinions Podcasts: A Photographic Life

NEW: Photography: Oral Histories Audio Archive Launched…

Posted on 27/04/202327/04/2023 by gscott20121

Audio Opinions Podcasts: A Photographic Life

PODCAST: A Photographic Life, Episode 260: Plus Photographer John Haynes

Posted on 26/04/202320/04/2023 by gscott20120

Is The True Decisive Moment When You Press the Button?

Posted on 21/04/202323/04/2023 by gscott20122

Audio Opinions Podcasts: A Photographic Life

PODCAST: A Photographic Life, Episode 259: ‘Special Conversation’ with Craig Atkinson/Cafe Royal Books

Posted on 19/04/202312/04/2023 by gscott20120

Do You Want to Teach Photography at University? Here Are Some Early Mistakes and Points You Might Like to Consider!

Posted on 16/04/202317/04/2023 by gscott20120

Opinions Podcasts: A Photographic Life

PODCAST: A Photographic Life, Episode 258: Plus Photographer Paul Hansen

Posted on 12/04/202309/04/2023 by gscott20120

Photography! What Is It For?

Posted on 10/04/202310/04/2023 by gscott20129

Do You Have a Photograph?

Posted on 07/04/202307/04/2023 by gscott20124

Audio Opinions Podcasts: A Photographic Life

PODCAST: A Photographic Conversation, Episode 257: With Bill Shapiro ‘The Personal Project Part 1’

Posted on 05/04/202305/04/2023 by gscott20120

NFT, AI, CHATGPT, Do These Letters Mean Anything To Photography?

Posted on 03/04/202303/04/2023 by gscott20120

Indoors or Outdoors It’s All Photography

Posted on 02/04/202302/04/2023 by gscott20124

Why and How Did You Connect With Photography? ‘Creativity’ or ‘Kit and Process Geekery’? Or Both?

Posted on 02/04/202302/04/2023 by gscott20121

Audio Opinions Podcasts: A Photographic Life

PODCAST: A Photographic Life, Episode 256: Plus Photographer Dennis Dimick

Posted on 29/03/202329/03/2023 by gscott20120

Audio Opinions Podcasts: A Photographic Life

PODCAST: A Photographic Life, Episode 255: ‘Special Interview’ with Photographer Matt Black

Posted on 22/03/202317/03/2023 by gscott20120

If You Want To Travel Learn to Drive, Fly a Plane or Sail a Boat, If You Want to Be A Photographer Learn to Tell Stories…

Posted on 19/03/202319/03/2023 by gscott20122

Audio Opinions Podcasts: A Photographic Life

PODCAST: A Photographic Life, Episode 254: Plus Photographer Juan Fabuel

Posted on 15/03/202315/03/2023 by gscott20120

Audio Podcasts: A Photographic Life

RIP Mik Critchlow: 1955-2023

Posted on 10/03/202310/03/2023 by gscott20121

Audio Opinions Podcasts: A Photographic Life

PODCAST: A Photographic Life, Episode 253: Plus Photographer Landry Major

Posted on 08/03/202303/03/2023 by gscott20120

Audio Opinions Podcasts: A Photographic Life

PODCAST: A Photographic Conversation, Episode 252: With Bill Shapiro ‘The Photo Mentor and Mentorship”

Posted on 01/03/202320/02/2023 by gscott20120

Magazine Photography Was The Foundation of Commissioned Photography So What Will It Be Without Magazines?

Posted on 28/02/202328/02/2023 by gscott20122

PODCAST: A Photographic Life ‘Special’ ‘Catching Spirits In a Box: Photography and The Dead’ Part 1

Posted on 27/02/202327/02/2023 by gscott20120

Knocking On Doors When No One is Home

Posted on 25/02/202325/02/2023 by gscott20122

Audio Opinions Podcasts: A Photographic Life

PODCAST: A Photographic Life, Episode 251: Plus Photographer Carolyn Mendelsohn

Posted on 22/02/202316/02/2023 by gscott20120

Audio Opinions Podcasts: A Photographic Life

PODCAST: A Photographic Life, Episode 250: Plus Photographer Luke Stephenson

Posted on 15/02/202309/02/2023 by gscott20120

Has Anyone Seen The New Plan for Photographers?

Posted on 13/02/202314/02/2023 by gscott20126

Audio Opinions Podcasts: A Photographic Life

PODCAST: A Photographic Life, Episode 249: Plus Photographer Greg Hunt

Posted on 08/02/202302/02/2023 by gscott20121

What Is The Future For Photographic Education?

Posted on 02/02/202305/02/2023 by gscott201212

Audio Podcasts: A Photographic Life

PODCAST: A Photographic Conversation, Episode 248: With Bill Shapiro ‘Websites’

Posted on 01/02/202325/01/2023 by gscott20127

Audio Opinions Podcasts: A Photographic Life

PODCAST: A Photographic Life, Episode 247: Plus Photographer Deborah Parkin

Posted on 25/01/202320/01/2023 by gscott20120

Audio Opinions Podcasts: A Photographic Life

PODCAST: A Photographic Life, Episode 246: Plus Photographer Richard Sharum

Posted on 18/01/202313/01/2023 by gscott20120

Photographing Bob Dylan. One Subject, Many Photographers…

Posted on 15/01/202316/01/2023 by gscott20122

Don’t Break, Break It! Facing the Photo Wall

Posted on 14/01/202315/01/2023 by gscott20120

Audio Opinions Podcasts: A Photographic Life

PODCAST: A Photographic Life, Episode 245: Plus Photographer John R.J. Taylor

Posted on 11/01/202305/01/2023 by gscott20122

When You Lose 27,000 Followers on Twitter or Social Media is Fragile Beware!

Posted on 10/01/202311/01/2023 by gscott20120

What Makes a Successful Photo Portfolio?

Posted on 09/01/202310/01/2023 by gscott20125

How to Edit Your Photographs, the Simple 5 Step Way

Posted on 07/01/202308/01/2023 by gscott20124

Networks Are Built, Not Only Inherited…

Posted on 06/01/202306/01/2023 by gscott20120

Photography is a Business and We Are All Part of That Business!

Posted on 04/01/202305/01/2023 by gscott20120

Audio Podcasts: A Photographic Life

PODCAST: A Photographic Life, Episode 244: New Year’s Special with Bill Shapiro

Posted on 04/01/202304/01/2023 by gscott20121

Clinging to the Photography Wreckage: The Good Old Days are Gone

Posted on 03/01/202303/01/2023 by gscott20120

Should, Could or Would? How to Accept Photo Advice

Posted on 29/12/202229/12/2022 by gscott20120

What is a Photograph?

Posted on 29/12/202229/12/2022 by gscott20121

Audio Podcasts: A Photographic Life

PODCAST: A Photographic Life, Episode 243: Plus Photographer Gautier Deblonde

Posted on 28/12/202213/12/2022 by gscott20120

Audio Podcasts: A Photographic Life

PODCAST: A Photographic Life, Episode 242 ‘Christmas Special’: Plus Photographer Jonas Bendiksen

Posted on 21/12/202221/12/2022 by gscott20121

Bill Jay Archive: Artists: Rebels without a Cause (There is no difference between fine-art and commercialism – and there never has been)

Posted on 17/12/2022 by gscott20120

Audio Opinions Podcasts: A Photographic Life

PODCAST: A Photographic Life, Episode 241: Plus Photographer Mitra Tabrizian

Posted on 14/12/202211/12/2022 by gscott20120

Bill Jay Archive: Confessions of a Gallery Hater

Posted on 09/12/202209/12/2022 by gscott20120

Bill Jay Archive: Myths and Legends, From Photography’s Shady Past…

Posted on 09/12/202209/12/2022 by gscott20120

Audio Podcasts: A Photographic Life

PODCAST: A Photographic Life, Episode 239: Plus Photographer Kieran Dodds

Posted on 07/12/202203/12/2022 by gscott20120

Bill Jay Archive: Arnold Newman: A Personal Appreciation

Posted on 04/12/202204/12/2022 by gscott20121

The Six Questions You Need to Ask and Answer Before Starting a Photography Project

Posted on 02/12/202203/12/2022 by gscott20120

Audio Podcasts: A Photographic Life

PODCAST: A Photographic Conversation, Episode 240: With Bill Shapiro ‘The Photo Book Part 2’

Posted on 30/11/202218/04/2023 by gscott20120

Photographers, Is It Time to Move on From the Anthropocene Tag?

Posted on 27/11/202227/11/2022 by gscott20124

How to Find the Good Stuff: Photography Google Is Not All That…

Posted on 25/11/202226/11/2022 by gscott20121

Books for Portrait Photographers

Posted on 25/11/202226/11/2022 by gscott20120

Audio Opinions Podcasts: A Photographic Life

PODCAST: A Photographic Life, Episode 238: Plus Photographer Don Tonge

Posted on 23/11/202217/11/2022 by gscott20120

Books for Street Photographers

Posted on 21/11/202225/11/2022 by gscott20121

Say Hello to the Non-Photographer Photographer

Posted on 17/11/202220/11/2022 by gscott20120

Audio Opinions Podcasts: A Photographic Life

PODCAST: A Photographic Life, Episode 237: Plus Photographer Max Miechowski

Posted on 16/11/202210/11/2022 by gscott20120

Photography As Entertainment, Is That a Bad Thing?

Posted on 14/11/202215/11/2022 by gscott20122

Audio Opinions Podcasts: A Photographic Life

PODCAST: A Photographic Life, Episode 236: Plus Photographer Henry Iddon

Posted on 09/11/202204/11/2022 by gscott20120

Saul Leiter Is Not At Home

Posted on 05/11/202205/11/2022 by gscott20121

Audio Opinions Podcasts: A Photographic Life

PODCAST: A Photographic Conversation, Episode 235: With Bill Shapiro ‘The Photo Book Part 1’

Posted on 02/11/202204/11/2022 by gscott20121

#Pro Photo Wisdom

Posted on 01/11/202204/11/2022 by gscott20120

Jumping the Ship, But Which Life Boat To Choose? The Social Media Conundrum Explored

Posted on 29/10/202229/10/2022 by gscott20121

The Past Informs the Future of Photography, But It Doesn’t Have to Control It!

Posted on 28/10/202228/10/2022 by gscott20120

No More Heroes…

Posted on 27/10/2022 by gscott20125

Audio Opinions Podcasts: A Photographic Life

PODCAST: A Photographic Life, Episode 234: Plus Photographer Cecilia di Paolo

Posted on 26/10/202220/10/2022 by gscott20120

Why Do People Buy Photographs? And What Are They Worth?

Posted on 22/10/202222/10/2022 by gscott20123

Audio Opinions Podcasts: A Photographic Life

PODCAST: A Photographic Life, Episode 233: Plus Photographer Math Roberts

Posted on 19/10/202220/10/2022 by gscott20124

In Praise of Difference: Photography and Neurodivergence

Posted on 17/10/202217/10/2022 by gscott20122

Breathe Before You Press The Button and Don’t Forget to Bend Your Knees…

Posted on 16/10/202216/10/2022 by gscott20120

The Long Form Edit: Rediscovering the Dismissed Image

Posted on 14/10/202214/10/2022 by gscott20120

Audio Opinions Podcasts: A Photographic Life

PODCAST: A Photographic Life, Episode 232: Plus Photographer Jane Hilton

Posted on 12/10/202212/10/2022 by gscott20120

When Will Photographers Finally Accept the Smartphone?

Posted on 09/10/202209/10/2022 by gscott20125

How To Improve Your Photography? Make Films!

Posted on 07/10/202207/10/2022 by gscott20125

PODCAST: A Photographic Conversation, Episode 231: With Bill Shapiro ‘Art Speak’

Posted on 05/10/202204/11/2022 by gscott20122

The New Work Balance for Photographers

Posted on 02/10/202204/10/2022 by gscott20122

Punk Photography or Three Chords and A Message

Posted on 02/10/202203/10/2022 by gscott20127

Mental Wellbeing and Photography: Cause or Cure?

Posted on 30/09/202210/10/2022 by gscott20121

Audio Opinions Podcasts: A Photographic Life

PODCAST: A Photographic Life, Episode 230: Plus Photographer Roland Miller

Posted on 28/09/202225/09/2022 by gscott20122

Dogmatic Instamatic

Posted on 27/09/202227/09/2022 by gscott20120

Photo Books and the Economic Crisis

Posted on 22/09/202223/09/2022 by gscott20123

Audio Opinions Podcasts: A Photographic Life

PODCAST: A Photographic Life, Episode 229: Plus Photographer Richard Bram

Posted on 21/09/202213/09/2022 by gscott20121

Why the Deconstructed Photograph Doesn’t Work!

Posted on 20/09/202220/09/2022 by gscott20123

Look! I Was There or I Have a Photograph As Proof!

Posted on 18/09/202218/09/2022 by gscott20120

The Family of Man: A Reappraisal of “The Greatest Exhibition of All Time”

Posted on 16/09/202216/09/2022 by gscott20122

The Final Photograph: Documenting the End of Life

Posted on 15/09/202215/09/2022 by gscott20121

Audio Opinions Podcasts: A Photographic Life

PODCAST: A Photographic Life Episode 228: Plus Photographer Lise Johansson

Posted on 14/09/202208/09/2022 by gscott20120

Snapshot: Noel Coward, New York and Susan Sontag

Posted on 13/09/2022 by gscott20120

What Is The Central Obstacle To Being a Portrait Photographer?

Posted on 11/09/202211/09/2022 by gscott20121

Avoid Templates to Get Noticed: The Importance of the Original Thinker

Posted on 09/09/202209/09/2022 by gscott20120

Audio Opinions Podcasts: A Photographic Life

PODCAST: A Photographic Conversation, Episode 227: With Bill Shapiro ‘The Gate Keeper’

Posted on 07/09/202204/11/2022 by gscott20125

Why Is Photography So Misunderstood?

Posted on 02/09/202204/09/2022 by gscott20120

Snapshot: Bruce Davidson and New York City

Posted on 02/09/2022 by gscott20120

Snapshot: Norman Parkinson and New York City

Posted on 02/09/2022 by gscott20120

Audio Opinions Podcasts: A Photographic Life

PODCAST: A Photographic Life, Episode 226: Plus Photographer Nicola Muirhead

Posted on 31/08/202231/08/2022 by gscott20120

It’s All In The Eyes

Posted on 29/08/202230/08/2022 by gscott20120

Is Commissioned Photography Only For The Under 50s?

Posted on 28/08/202228/08/2022 by gscott20121

Don’t Get Angry, Get Smarter!

Posted on 26/08/202226/08/2022 by gscott20121

Putting Images In Frames: Tim Page 1944-2022

Posted on 24/08/202224/08/2022 by gscott20123

Audio Opinions Podcasts: A Photographic Life

PODCAST: A Photographic Life, Episode 225: Plus Photographer Guy Dickinson

Posted on 24/08/202219/08/2022 by gscott20120

Snap Shot: Edward Steichen and Louise Brooks

Posted on 22/08/202222/08/2022 by gscott20121

Snap Shot: Thomas Struth and New York City

Posted on 22/08/202222/08/2022 by gscott2012