In this monthly conversation series Grant Scott speaks with editor, writer and curator of photography Bill ShapiroIn an informal conversation each month Grant and Bill comment on the photographic environment as they see it. This month they reflect on sports photography.

*Correction: In this episode it is stated that, Robert Beck’s image of Brandi Chastain was made in 1992. It was actually captured in 1999.

Bill Shapiro
Bill Shapiro served as the Editor-in-Chief of LIFE, the legendary photo magazine; LIFE’s relaunch in 2004 was the largest in Time Inc. history. Later, he was the founding Editor-in-Chief of LIFE.com, which won the 2011 National Magazine Award for digital photography. Shapiro is the author of several books, among them Gus & Me, a children’s book he co-wrote with Rolling Stones guitarist Keith Richards and, What We Keep, which looks at the objects in our life that hold the most emotional significance. A fine-art photography curator for New York galleries and a consultant to photographers, Shapiro is also a Contributing Editor to the Leica Conversations series. He has written about photography for the New York Times MagazineVanity Fair, the AtlanticVogue, and Esquire, among others. Every Friday — more or less — he posts about under-the-radar photographers on his Instagram feed, where he’s @billshapiro.

Dr.Grant Scott
After fifteen years art directing photography books and magazines such as Elle and Tatler, Scott began to work as a photographer for a number of advertising and editorial clients in 2000. Alongside his photographic career Scott has art directed numerous advertising campaigns, worked as a creative director at Sotheby’s, art directed foto8magazine, founded his own photographic gallery, edited Professional Photographer magazine and launched his own title for photographers and filmmakers Hungry Eye. He founded the United Nations of Photography in 2012, and is now a Senior Lecturer and Subject Co-ordinator: Photography at Oxford Brookes University, Oxford, and a BBC Radio contributor. Scott is the author of Professional Photography: The New Global Landscape Explained (Routledge 2014), The Essential Student Guide to Professional Photography (Routledge 2015), New Ways of Seeing: The Democratic Language of Photography (Routledge 2019), and What Does Photography Mean To You? (Bluecoat Press 2020). His photography has been published in At Home With The Makers of Style (Thames & Hudson 2006) and Crash Happy: A Night at The Bangers (Cafe Royal Books 2012). His film Do Not Bend: The Photographic Life of Bill Jay was premiered in 2018.

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Mentioned in this episode:

Image: © Jerome Brouillet 2024 AFP

Bill Frakes Instagram: @Billfrakes  www.billfrakes.com

Steph Chambers Instagram: @stephchambersphoto www.stephchambersphoto.com

Robert Beck Instagram @shoot802 www.robertbeckphotography.com

Neil Leifer interview with Bill Shapiro: Heavyweight Pictures: Neil Leifer Reflects on 60 Years of Iconic Photos Inside the Boxing Ring

https://vault.si.com/vault/1999/07/26/moment-of-truth-there-was-no-action-in-the-tcu-locker-room-before-the-1957-cotton-bowl-but-what-marvin-newman-photographed-there-is-as-close-to-the-essence-of-sports-as-anything-that-happens-on-a-playing-field

https://neilleifer.com

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4 responses to “PODCAST: A Photographic Conversation, Episode 330 with Bill Shapiro ‘What Is Sports Photography?’”

  1. hello there. Thank you for the interesting discussion.
    You started talking about the technology and how it’s helping to sport photographers to freeze the right moment, but somehow moved to the other theme of the conversation if this image (the first one) is about a sport at all. Agree with you – sport photographers always used the most modern and fast cameras whenever it was – the age of the analogue photography with the Nikon F6 for example or these days with the super fast burst function in the modern digital cameras.
    So, personally i found this photo amazingly interesting, even, for me it more about documentation than about the sport itself. Actually, better to ask the sportsmen and probably he will response that he prefer the images with the moments under the wave, with recognizable face and known risky trick. But this don’t make this moment less interesting and also does not reject the initial theme that you started. The photographer took a burst on 4 images as said in the interview with the goal to get exactly the moment. After some simple research i found another image exactly from this moment just the surfing board is turned to another side. As a documentary photographer – BTS, sport, street and just a life, i do believe in one single taken photo which is able to bring fa full story, but its not about the same when photographer take 8-10 images in one click and even don’t see his/her images but immediately send the whole photographed day to the agency.
    Again, thank you for the interesting episode, i’m waiting for more
    Victor

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  3.  Brilliant episode! I really enjoyed the in-depth discussion about sports photography. As a skateboarding photographer, I often feel like my work isn’t seen as significant in the grand scheme of things. Whenever I mention it to people, they sometimes think it’s just a quirky or gimmicky pursuit. However, from a technical standpoint, I genuinely believe skateboarding is one of the most challenging sports to photograph. You’re constantly dealing with the public, security, and police, along with the fast-paced nature of the action itself—capturing each trick with millisecond precision. Not to mention, setting up a full studio lighting environment out on the streets. It feels like a little miracle every time everything aligns and a great photo is captured. I’d love to hear your thoughts on skateboarding photography, especially since you mentioned subscribing to a skateboarding magazine back in the day. Thanks for the great podcast, as always! 😊

    1. Thanks for the positive feedback. I am a big supporter of skateboard photography and encourage students to work in that area if that is their passion. In fact one of my graduates went on to be a successful extreme sports photographer after he spent three years wiith me making only skateboarding images.

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