In this monthly conversation series Grant Scott speaks with editor, writer and curator of photography Bill ShapiroIn an informal conversation each month Grant and Bill comment on the photographic environment as they see it. This month they reflect on street photography as nostalgia and history.

Bill Shapiro
Bill Shapiro served as the Editor-in-Chief of LIFE, the legendary photo magazine; LIFE’s relaunch in 2004 was the largest in Time Inc. history. Later, he was the founding Editor-in-Chief of LIFE.com, which won the 2011 National Magazine Award for digital photography. Shapiro is the author of several books, among them Gus & Me, a children’s book he co-wrote with Rolling Stones guitarist Keith Richards and, What We Keep, which looks at the objects in our life that hold the most emotional significance. A fine-art photography curator for New York galleries and a consultant to photographers, Shapiro is also a Contributing Editor to the Leica Conversations series. He has written about photography for the New York Times MagazineVanity Fair, the AtlanticVogue, and Esquire, among others. Every Friday — more or less — he posts about under-the-radar photographers on his Instagram feed, where he’s @billshapiro.

Dr.Grant Scott
After fifteen years art directing photography books and magazines such as Elle and Tatler, Scott began to work as a photographer for a number of advertising and editorial clients in 2000. Alongside his photographic career Scott has art directed numerous advertising campaigns, worked as a creative director at Sotheby’s, art directed foto8magazine, founded his own photographic gallery, edited Professional Photographer magazine and launched his own title for photographers and filmmakers Hungry Eye. He founded the United Nations of Photography in 2012, and is now a Senior Lecturer and Subject Co-ordinator: Photography at Oxford Brookes University, Oxford, and a BBC Radio contributor. Scott is the author of Professional Photography: The New Global Landscape Explained (Routledge 2014), The Essential Student Guide to Professional Photography (Routledge 2015), New Ways of Seeing: The Democratic Language of Photography (Routledge 2019), and What Does Photography Mean To You? (Bluecoat Press 2020). His photography has been published in At Home With The Makers of Style (Thames & Hudson 2006) and Crash Happy: A Night at The Bangers (Cafe Royal Books 2012). His film Do Not Bend: The Photographic Life of Bill Jay was premiered in 2018.

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Mentioned in this episode:
Tria Giovan www.triagiovan.com Instagram @triagiovan
Her book “Loisaida. New York Street Work 1984-1990,” is available here

Matt Weber mattweberphotos.com Instagram @matt.weber.photos
His book “New York City 1985” is available here

© Grant Scott 2024


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3 responses to “PODCAST: A Photographic Conversation with Bill Shapiro: Episode 334 ‘Nostalgia, History and Street Photography’”

  1. There’s a great series of interviews with great photographers by Barbaralee Diamonstein on YouTube. A lot of them are street photographers and it’s great to listen to them because they sound a lot different from today’s ‘artspeak’. Basically, they just go and take pictures because they find beauty everywhere, and that’s it. I, for instance, live in a small town and what we have here are beautiful yards and crumbling buildings. I like to stage my models in that environment, I don’t know if that’s ‘street photography’ because a lot of them look like fashion shots and a lot of them are portraits. Snapping at random people in the street here is weird unless you use a mobile phone. I don’t know why, but people get scared when you approach them with a huge camera and their reactions can be different. I think they are more paranoid, thanks to the internet, than they used to be back in the eighties when the streets were more alive and filled with kiosks, shoeshine boys, vendors, street artists and of course, street photographers. My father used to sell jewelry he made on the main street and at the same time take pictures of his customers and random people. It was not weird back then. We would also go to the seaside together and he would work there. The tourists loved it!

  2. Interesting as always.
    I was particularly interested in your discussion around the Chris Killip photo of the youth on the wall. This is one of my all-time favourite images and I was lucky enough to hear Chris talking about this many years ago. Paul (the boy on the wall) was at the same school as Chris and was an extremely troubled soul who was persecuted by fellow pupils and teachers because he didn’t ‘fit in’. Chris didn’t maintain a relationship with Paul after he left school and never knew what became of him.
    That image haunts me every time I look at it as there is so much tragedy and hidden emotion within it.

    1. Thanks for the feedback and added insight Jon. If you put Killips name into the search panel you will find the article I wrote about it mentioned in the episode.

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